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Thursday, 27 September 2012

UK - ‘MoD support growing for Trident alternative’



The coalition government has been accused of putting national security at risk with its two opposing positions on Trident renewal.

The Lib Dems are either being “ill-informed” about the need for a replacement fleet of nuclear missile-carrying submarines or are trying to “pull the wool” over people’s eyes, Barrow MP John Woodcock has claimed.

He made the comments as Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg told the party conference in Brighton of his desire for an alternative to Trident nuclear submarines and promised to play “hardball” with David Cameron over the Successor programme. He also used Trident as an example of Conservative policies blocked by the Lib Dems, including stopping the nuclear deterrent replacement being approved in this parliament.

In response to Mr Clegg’s announcement, Westmorland and Lonsdale MP Tim Farron said he believed there is growing support within the Ministry of Defence for an
alternative to a direct Trident replacement. He added: “We recognise the submarines need to be built in Barrow, but not nuclear ones.

“It will be better for the Cumbrian economy if we want the full range of submarines, not just those with nuclear missiles.”

The plan preferred by the Lib Dems would see nuclear warheads fired from existing Astute submarines, eliminating the need to replace the Vanguard-class nuclear boats. A final decision is not expected until after the next general election, but the initial gate stages of preparatory work have already been signed off, resulting in more jobs being created at BAE Systems’ Barrow shipyard.

Mr Woodcock said: “I have worked well with Tim Farron on a number of issues, but on renewal of the deterrent the Lib Dems are either cosmically ill-informed or seeking to pull the wool over the eyes of many thousands whose jobs depend on a thriving shipyard.

“Unfortunately, this hopeless muddle reflects the wider risk to jobs and national security caused by the coalition facing both ways on renewal.

“It is right for any government to examine credible new evidence on the deterrent, but studies produced so far have suggested that the Lib Dem alternative of nuclear-tipped cruise missiles on Astute-class submarines could be more expensive, less effective, and more likely to trigger a nuclear conflict – the opposite of the myth peddled by the Liberal Democrats.”

Chief secretary to the treasury Danny Alexander has been put in charge of the government review of alternatives to the Trident nuclear missile system after the only Lib Dem in the Ministry of Defence was moved in the government reshuffle.

The study is being carried out to appease Lib Dem coalition partners who are opposed to a like-for-like replacement of Trident.

Trident submarine missiles review to suggest 'stepping down nuclear ladder'



Ousted defence minister Nick Harvey claims military and Whitehall backing for cheaper alternatives

The government's review of the future of the Trident submarine nuclear missile system is likely to suggest a significant downgrading of the UK's nuclear deterrent, including the possibility of locking the warheads "in a cupboard" for delayed launch only after several weeks of mounting international tension.

The revelation was made by Sir Nick Harvey, the Liberal Democrat who was the defence minister leading the review until the government reshuffle this month. The MP for North Devon said he believed the policy could get support in Whitehall and from senior military figures and Labour.

Harvey said past policy on Trident had been dictated by the 1980s view that the only deterrent to a nuclear attack from the then Soviet Union was the belief that the UK could "flatten Moscow" in retaliation. This led to the UK building Trident and having at least one armed submarine at sea every hour of every day since.

Speaking in detail about the Trident review for the first time since he was sacked as minister, Harvey said: "If you can just break yourself out of that frankly almost lunatic mindset for a second, all sorts of alternatives start to look possible, indeed credible."

He continued: "The Russia of the 21st century – economically diverse, vaguely democratic, but definitely a very different sort of place from where it was in 1980 – might find all sorts of damage to be unacceptable short of flattening Moscow.

"Therefore to convince ourselves that the only point of having any deterrent at all is the capability of flattening Moscow is the wrong and distorting lens through which to view the debate."

Instead of replacing Trident with a like-for-like 24-hour nuclear armed submarine presence at sea after the current system is due to be taken out of service in 2028, cheaper alternatives are being considered. These range from stepping down the patrols, to designing missiles to be launched from aircraft, surface navy ships or land, to a delayed launch system.

The delayed-launch model would involve developing a nuclear warhead for a cruise missile that could be launched from existing Astute submarines, Harvey said, "but having perfected that technology simply put it away in a cupboard and keep it as a contingency in case there ever were to be a deterioration in the global security picture that might need the UK government to take it out of the cupboard".

In this situation, the UK would store the warheads in a secure military location, from where they could be removed, put on the tip of a missile and put to sea within weeks or months.

Challenged as to why the review did not consider nuclear disarmament, Harvey said: "I think you might struggle to persuade the British public to do that, but I think you might persuade them to go down to the penultimate step: you keep something for a rainy day, but putting it away and not having it as part of your everyday activity."

Harvey told a fringe debate at the Liberal Democrat conference in Brighton that the idea of moving "down the nuclear ladder" had support across all three armed services: the army, the Royal Navy and the RAF.

He said one reason for growing support for the review's alternatives was a "perfect storm" of defence capital costs around 2020, including building the new joint strike fighter aircraft and Type 26 frigates, a new generation of unmanned aircraft, and amphibious craft for the navy.

The army, he said, was "driving around in vehicles which are literally about to fall to pieces".

If defence ministers in 2020 were not to be put in an impossible position, the defence ministers of the next couple of years would have to take the necessary decisions to avert a crisis.

He said: "Believe you me there are very senior figures of all three services who are highly aware of that perfect storm of these costs, who don't believe the Treasury is going suddenly ride to their rescue with a cheque and who are asking, 'Is the opportunity cost of having another generation of nuclear weapons too high, in terms of of what it would prevent us doing on other fronts?'"

He added: "I can't say with certainty how they [military chiefs] will respond, but a number of them made the point to me to not portray it [the report] in such a political and party way that you don't create the space for some of us to support you and try and help."

It was not impossible that the review could get support from the Whitehall security sector, said Harvey, who was also hopeful that Labour, or parts of the party, would support the review's conclusion.

He added: "The UK national security strategy no longer even identifies the nuclear menace as a tier one threat."

In a sign of the potential political row brewing over Trident, John Woodcock, the Labour MP for Barrow in Furness, where new Trident subs would be built, this week accused the Lib Dems of being in a "hopeless muddle" over the issue.

"The Lib Dems are either cosmically ill-informed or seeking to pull the wool over the eyes of many thousands whose jobs depend on a thriving shipyard," he said.

Harvey's response was that creating jobs in Barrow should be the last consideration. "The idea that you should produce weapons of mass destruction in order to keep 1,500 jobs going in the Barrow shipyard is palpably ludicrous. We could give them all a couple of million quid and send them to the Bahamas for the rest of their lives , and the world would be a much better place, and we would have saved a lot of money," he said.

"I had wanted my legacy to be bringing the UK down the nuclear ladder," added Harvey, who was knighted after his dismissal in the reshuffle.

However, Professor Malcolm Chalmers, research director at the defence think-tank Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), raised concerns about possible savings by scrapping a Trident replacement, saying he was not yet convinced by the figures.

"If you end up going for an option which steps down the ladder but you don't save any money it's a political non-starter," he said.

The review was made part of the coalition agreement between the Lib Dems and the Conservatives after the 2010 election because the two parties disagreed strongly on the issue. After Labour decided in 2007 to replace Trident with a like-for-like system, the Lib Dems went into the 2010 general election opposing that policy while the Tories supported it.

The review is now being headed by Danny Alexander, the chief secretary to the Treasury, who is a Lib Dem.

Friday, 22 June 2012

How UK Armed Forces Veterans are treated by the UK Government

'It's disgusting': Anger as MoD lands veterans with £700,000 bill for ceremony to unveil Bomber Command Memorial

Bomber Command charity has raised £6.5m for monument in London's Green Park

But government won't stump up remaining funds to stage ceremony on Thursday

War veterans face paying up to £700,000 out of their own pockets to unveil the Bomber Command Memorial because the Government is refusing to stump up the cash.

The pensioners, who are trustees of the Bomber Command Association, will be personally liable for the cost of staging the event if they fail to raise the money through donations.

'Disgusting': The RAF Bomber Command Memorial under construction in Green park. War veterans have been told they face a £700,000 bill for staging its official opening after the MoD sais it would not cover the costs

'Disgusting': The RAF Bomber Command Memorial under construction in Green park. War veterans have been told they face a £700,000 bill for staging its official opening after the MoD sais it would not cover the costs

However they still have to find £700,000 to provide seating and security for the event on Thursday, which will be attended by ten members of the Royal Family including the Queen.

The monument, in London’s Green Park, will commemorate the 55,573 Bomber Command airmen who died in the Second World War.

It has already proved controversial after it emerged that more than 100 veterans could miss out on the unveiling because of a lack of space.

Earlier this month, David Cameron gave the trustees hope when he told MPs the Government had ‘the ability to intervene’ if funds were not raised in time.
But now the trustees, who include four Bomber Command veterans, have been told the Ministry of Defence will not help.

Jim Dooley, chairman of the memorial’s fund-raising committee, said the veterans were still £500,000 short.

‘The MoD response to this has been disgusting,’ he said. ‘The unveiling has become a state occasion, yet we are getting no help from the state.’

Trustee and veteran Harry Irons, 88, from Romford, Essex, said: ‘If we can’t get the £500,000 I will probably lose my house. I haven’t got much else.’

The memorial was built with private donations, but the bill for its unveiling has risen because the 6,500 widows and veterans face security checks before they can enter Green Park.

The Department for Culture, Media and Sport said it would ‘make a contribution’ but would not say how much.

The MoD said it was not allowed to give to charities, despite records showing it has donated to 28 charitable bodies in the past five years.

A Government spokesman said: 'The Government does not usually support opening ceremonies for public memorials.

'However, given the unique circumstances of the Bomber Command Memorial, an exception has been made in this case.

'The Government will make a contribution towards the opening ceremony to help cover the additional costs of seating and security for the many veterans wish to see the unveiling of this important memorial.

'This is in addition to £1million that the Government has already contributed towards the VAT costs of the construction of the memorial.'

Andrew Robathan, Minister for Defence Personnel, Welfare and Veterans, said: 'The MoD has worked very closely with the excellent people of the Bomber Command Association to ensure a successful unveiling of the memorial.

'We are delighted that a significant number of RAF personnel will be involved in the event, providing a flypast by five Tornado aircraft and a Lancaster Bomber from the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight; ceremonial elements by The Queens’ Colour Squadron, University Air Squadrons and the Central Band of the RAF; along with ushers, hosts and catering services.'

To make a donation, go to www.bombercommand.com